So now I'm working with a woman...
by Nate Larkin on August 20th, 2010
I've been speaking to male audiences for years, mostly at conferences and retreats. Most of the time I talk about recovery from compulsive sexual behavior, and I usually wind up telling my story of addiction to porn and hookers. It's a subject I'm comfortable talking about -- especially when the only people in the room are other guys. Guys understand.If my wife doesn't accompany me on a trip, I always take another guy along, and sometimes that fellow joins me on stage. Again, this is something I'm very comfortable with. Guys love road trips. A guy can be ready to go anywhere in five minutes, and he brings very little luggage. If we want to, we can talk about baseball the whole way.
But this time I'll be working with a woman. And we'll also be talking to girls.
I'm bringing another guy along on the trip to Indiana too, of course. My good friend Scott Phillips, a dazzling talented musician who has covered many miles with me over the years, will be there for the whole thing. Scott will play a song or two, and we'll have a good time together.
But this time I'll be sharing the stage with Constance Rhodes, who just happens to be a woman. We'll be speaking to audiences of men and women, and we'll be talking about the most secret and shameful struggles women and men face.
Right there. On stage. Together.
A few things about Constance:
- Constance is a mom, and she's married to a friend of mine.
- Constance is considerably younger than I am, but she has already written more books than I have.
- Constance likes to make fun of me because of my age, but deep inside she's envious of my superior life experience.
- Constance doesn't make fun of my weight. because she's sympathetic to that kind of ridicule, even though she's skinny.
- Constance was the first person to suggest to me that the typical male obsession with sex and the typical female obsession with weight and appearance are actually RELATED — that men and women do different things for the same core reason.
This has got to stop. Which means we've got to do something different.
So now ... I'm working with a woman.
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23 Comments
Melanie McGaughey - August 21st, 2010 at 9:09 AM
Saw Constance last week and one of the first questions out of my mouth to her was "Have you done anything with the Samson Society yet!?! This was based on a ten second mention of her on your podcast months and MONTHS ago- where you'd mentioned she'd talked to you about possibly partnering together. But I hadn't been able to get it out of my mind and had been meaning to ask her about it all this time. I just knew you both had something to say and I couldn't shake the feeling that one needed the together.
So to say the least I was incredibly excited to hear about the "Sex and Skinny Tour" along with the "Third S" that you'll be bringing to the table. People desperately need to hear this...
Can't help but think about Isaiah 61 "The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord is on me,because the Lord has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners...to comfort all who mourn.."
And as far as working with Constance goes- you'll not find someone with more heart, grace, creativity, transparency, and loyalty. She is a rare find and she thinks the world of you...=)
Thank you for what you're doing. Thank you!
Gabriel T - August 21st, 2010 at 10:21 AM
Nate, this tour sounds awesome as it is different... even different than what you've done. On a special note, now that you are traveling with a woman be sure to leave a little early, most women can't get ready in 5 minutes.
But if anyone can do it, I'm sure it'd be Constance.
But if anyone can do it, I'm sure it'd be Constance.
newton - August 21st, 2010 at 11:56 AM
i think it's good for guys
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Sex and Skinny Tour - August 21st, 2010 at 8:08 PM
Hi Newton. We just figured out that our blog cuts off comments as soon as an ampersand is used. Wondering if you used one? If so, would love to hear the rest of what you were trying to say,,,
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newton - August 23rd, 2010 at 1:42 PM
i most definitely use ampersands all the time. lemme see if i can remember what i was gonna say, and say it without an ampersand.
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i think it's good for guys and girls to realize they're looking at different sides of the same broken coin. the struggles might look different, and might need to be addressed in different ways, but dealing with them together seems pretty awesome. i'm excited to see what comes of the tour. maybe we can quit setting each other off and learn how to actually talk to each other and play nice.
(untold numbers of ampersands died as a result of this comment)
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i think it's good for guys and girls to realize they're looking at different sides of the same broken coin. the struggles might look different, and might need to be addressed in different ways, but dealing with them together seems pretty awesome. i'm excited to see what comes of the tour. maybe we can quit setting each other off and learn how to actually talk to each other and play nice.
(untold numbers of ampersands died as a result of this comment)
Scott Vosburgh - August 21st, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Thanks for the post Nate.
I'm looking forward to the dialogue that the Sex and Skinny Tour opens up among both sexes. I had never really considered a relationship between compulsive sexual behavior and eating disorders until you first discussed it with Constance on the Samson podcast but they are topics that have not only affected my life but the lives of men and women in my community of believers.
Thanks for walking down a slightly different path with this tour - one that desperately needs open discussion.
I'm looking forward to the dialogue that the Sex and Skinny Tour opens up among both sexes. I had never really considered a relationship between compulsive sexual behavior and eating disorders until you first discussed it with Constance on the Samson podcast but they are topics that have not only affected my life but the lives of men and women in my community of believers.
Thanks for walking down a slightly different path with this tour - one that desperately needs open discussion.
Phil Breedlove - August 21st, 2010 at 11:57 AM
I think this is good for Nate Larkin. What's God going to do with you once this is over? What new direction will you be headed in when the tour comes to a close, because you're undoubtedly going to discover some new movement of the Holy Spirit as you experience this? Although we know a lot of women listen to the podcast, how sympathetic will they be to your "live on stage" story. I'm excited to hear your stories when it's all over...if it does indeed come to an end. Who knows...maybe you'll start the longest running evangelical road show since Billy Graham started playing college stadiums! ;-)
Godspeed, my brother. Godspeed! Come back with some good stories to tell!
Godspeed, my brother. Godspeed! Come back with some good stories to tell!
Kaka Ray - August 21st, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Wow! I am so thrilled to see that you guys are doing this. I want to grow up and be like both of ya'll! Seriously, groundbreaking direction for us all. It makes perfect since that men's issues match up with with what every woman deals with. Thank you both for your honesty, authenticity and shear courage to head in this direction. Can't wait to see more... I will use this resource (blog, website etc...the more the better) daily for my patients....you have and will continue to be a lifeline to many. Love and Blessings, Kaka Ray
Sylvia - August 21st, 2010 at 12:00 PM
Well, now there's a novel concept. We all know the ways boys and girls are different but rarely do we talk about the areas we have in common. Like how we both love a good bratwurst. Or even though some women will deny it, the truth is we like the excitement of a good Mission Impossible movie. And how some of us struggle with obsessive thinking. This is great that the two of you will be together to talk about stuff both of you struggle with, but this time, in front of the opposite sex. Men aren't used to hearing the real stuff behind a woman's struggle with body image and women are for SURE not accustomed to hearing a man be right out there with something so socially taboo as a sexual addiction. I can't wait to hear how this all goes. With people of the caliber of you and Constance, I can't imagine it will be anything short of stellar. Let me know when you come farther West; I'll be the first to buy a ticket.
Kevin - August 21st, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Nate,
I think you and Constance have hit the nail on the head. Women do things--albeit unknowingly some of the time--that get men worked up. Men do and say things that get women obsessing about their looks. We have set such a high bar with appearance that it is very hard to keep things on an even keel. Madison Avenue has capitalized on this and made billions feeding the cycle that never seems to end and only gets worse.
Trust the Lord will bless what you two are attempting to do. I think it is about time.
I think you and Constance have hit the nail on the head. Women do things--albeit unknowingly some of the time--that get men worked up. Men do and say things that get women obsessing about their looks. We have set such a high bar with appearance that it is very hard to keep things on an even keel. Madison Avenue has capitalized on this and made billions feeding the cycle that never seems to end and only gets worse.
Trust the Lord will bless what you two are attempting to do. I think it is about time.
Dan Davis - August 21st, 2010 at 12:26 PM
Do you remember the DOW chemical commercial, with the somber 'human' voice, talking about this element, that element, they show periodic table signs for Oxygen "O", for Hydrogen "H" and then they bring out the ''human element'', "Hu". I'm excited for Nate and Constance as they desegregate men and women, and each sexes sins,struggles, issues etc. The Sex
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Sex and Skinny Tour - August 21st, 2010 at 8:09 PM
Hi Dan - we're just figuring out that the blog cuts off comments that use an ampersand ("and" sign)... wondering if it cut your message off? Thanks for the encouragement just the same...
Ryan Gibson - August 21st, 2010 at 12:37 PM
This is amazing! I can't wait to see the tour and I agree - men and women have chosen to stay in the dark concerning each other's issues for far too long - I'm not suggesting husbands and wives put everything out on the table in every situation. But, being aware of the connections between sexually related issues and self-image issues will be key to healing this wound that has been left untreated for too long. Thanks Constance and Nate!
Philip Faustin - August 21st, 2010 at 1:44 PM
Nate, I am rereading your book, Samson and the Pirate Monks today. The first time I read it was three years ago, a couple of months before the Denver chapter of the Samson Society began.
I am glad to see this collaborative work with you and Constance. I know one crippling thing men and women share is secrets and shame. It will be good to have the truth told about other things we share as well.
Praise God for the freedom that will come because of this tour.
Philip
I am glad to see this collaborative work with you and Constance. I know one crippling thing men and women share is secrets and shame. It will be good to have the truth told about other things we share as well.
Praise God for the freedom that will come because of this tour.
Philip
Dan - August 21st, 2010 at 2:15 PM
Nate, I love it! Can't wait to see the fruit of this. Its crazy how it has taken this long for someone to see that, luckily you guys are smart enough to figure it out:)
Good luck and hey, I wouldn't worry too much about working with a woman, it could be worse!
Thanks for all you two are doing, we need men and women that aren't afraid to do what everyone else is afraid to do.
Good luck and hey, I wouldn't worry too much about working with a woman, it could be worse!
Thanks for all you two are doing, we need men and women that aren't afraid to do what everyone else is afraid to do.
Constance Rhodes - August 21st, 2010 at 2:51 PM
Nate, thanks for the nice comments! I'm very excited to be joining forces. Can't wait to see what God does out there in and through us.
Juan - August 21st, 2010 at 5:55 PM
Nate, I think you guys are on to something that will be very positive and fruitful for the Lord. This tour will have something for both sexes and will direct people's minds on the right path. I will be praying that God uses both Constance and you as vessels to reach people and give them the guidance that will pave a path to Him. Thank you for doing this and for doing what you are called to do!
Dave Mayfield - August 21st, 2010 at 8:05 PM
Nate: You and Constance are so right on with this “tour-de-truthâ€; bringing vital messages that apply across the entire human landscape.
Love the blog-page layout and your first greeting!! You consistently model openness, transparency, need for partnering accountability as key components of recovery, wellness and resilience. You have the life-story and credibility to bring this message of hope, help and healing to yet another audience.
Thank you for highlighting the “secret and shameful struggles women and men face…â€
Every person we see in clinical practice, regardless of age, drags baggage from faulty beliefs about the source of their identity, sense of self worth, value and image. These beliefs shape thoughts and behaviors that are forged relational experiences exposure to messages that raise confusion, reinforce shame and drive our secret lives deeper into isolation.
Women’s perception of men’s thoughts, beliefs and behaviors can be so specifically offensive and hurtful…while women’s body image and identity struggles don’t exploit men in quite the same ways, can seem ‘thin’ or shallow to men.
Bringing guys and gals together to intentionally hear truths about what each struggle with towards better understanding of themselves and each other is so exciting.
I’ll definitely be praying for you two as the enemy of our soul doesn’t want any more of us breaking free of our destructive lifestyles towards progressive restoration with the God Who is passionately pursuing us. I am excited to follow the tour, savor the blogs and share this with as many as possible.
How exciting this next journey!
Thank you Nate and Constance for the courage to step out together with the light of truth.
Love the blog-page layout and your first greeting!! You consistently model openness, transparency, need for partnering accountability as key components of recovery, wellness and resilience. You have the life-story and credibility to bring this message of hope, help and healing to yet another audience.
Thank you for highlighting the “secret and shameful struggles women and men face…â€
Every person we see in clinical practice, regardless of age, drags baggage from faulty beliefs about the source of their identity, sense of self worth, value and image. These beliefs shape thoughts and behaviors that are forged relational experiences exposure to messages that raise confusion, reinforce shame and drive our secret lives deeper into isolation.
Women’s perception of men’s thoughts, beliefs and behaviors can be so specifically offensive and hurtful…while women’s body image and identity struggles don’t exploit men in quite the same ways, can seem ‘thin’ or shallow to men.
Bringing guys and gals together to intentionally hear truths about what each struggle with towards better understanding of themselves and each other is so exciting.
I’ll definitely be praying for you two as the enemy of our soul doesn’t want any more of us breaking free of our destructive lifestyles towards progressive restoration with the God Who is passionately pursuing us. I am excited to follow the tour, savor the blogs and share this with as many as possible.
How exciting this next journey!
Thank you Nate and Constance for the courage to step out together with the light of truth.
Keith - August 21st, 2010 at 9:21 PM
This is a great idea and partnership! I look forward to following your blogs of the adventure.
Reid Swanson - August 21st, 2010 at 10:15 PM
God has used "Samson and the Pirate Monks" and the Samson Society to bring so many men (like me) out of their destructive shells of pretension, and into a glorious freedom only dreamed of this side of heaven. Now, not only will both genders get to deal individually with their soft underbellies (no pun intended), but they'll get to hear what the other side viciously struggles with every day. I pray this brings understanding, reconciliation, hope, healing, and renewed passion for our marriages, and our walks with Christ. God bless you guys on this bold new endeavor.
J.R. Hertwig - August 23rd, 2010 at 6:09 AM
I think this is an awesome idea and I am very interested to hear more about how Nate and Constance have linked the issues of men with the issues of women. As somewhat of an outsider looking in (I have a good friend that is very involved in the Sampson Society and I have read the book but never attended a meeting), but from my view I think it is an awesome cause and undertaking. My only concern has been a feeling that it could be all-too-easy for a guy working the program to lean totally on his brothers to the exclusion of openly, honestly, and effectively dealing with his wife.
This joint effort may help us all to see how we can bridge that vast cravass between the sexes and better understand how we can take the easy comradre between brothers and find new ways of gaining the same type of relationship with our spouses. Because let's face it, if we could talk to our wives the same way we could talk to our guy friends, we would probably never get into a lot of messes we get ourselves into.
This joint effort may help us all to see how we can bridge that vast cravass between the sexes and better understand how we can take the easy comradre between brothers and find new ways of gaining the same type of relationship with our spouses. Because let's face it, if we could talk to our wives the same way we could talk to our guy friends, we would probably never get into a lot of messes we get ourselves into.
Karen - August 23rd, 2010 at 8:50 AM
Hi Nate,
Now you get to experience all the fun I have in working with (for) Constance! I know Constance has been really excited about doing this with you and I look forward to seeing you both grow in new ways. It is fun, exciting, interesting, and needed. Thank you for your willingness to open up your mind to such a new idea. I know you will both do very well and I can't wait to see it all come together. It's definitely a God thing...
Now you get to experience all the fun I have in working with (for) Constance! I know Constance has been really excited about doing this with you and I look forward to seeing you both grow in new ways. It is fun, exciting, interesting, and needed. Thank you for your willingness to open up your mind to such a new idea. I know you will both do very well and I can't wait to see it all come together. It's definitely a God thing...
Travis - August 23rd, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Constance and I have been talking about this idea for several years now and I'm so excited about it actually becoming reality. Huge respect for both of you and how, through your books, blogs, etc. you are vulnerable with what can be intimidating topics.
Nate - I've travelled and spoken at events with Constance, so here are a few tips:
1. She's very organized and professional.
2. Let her sing on stage once in a while - she likes that.
3. She doesn't take long to get ready but she will ask you if her hair looks 'ok'.
So proud of you guys and wish I could join you on the road!
Nate - I've travelled and spoken at events with Constance, so here are a few tips:
1. She's very organized and professional.
2. Let her sing on stage once in a while - she likes that.
3. She doesn't take long to get ready but she will ask you if her hair looks 'ok'.
So proud of you guys and wish I could join you on the road!
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